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Show Progressive Baptist Church Podcast, Ep Great Expectations | Joshua 14:6-15 | Pastor Bryan Carter - Jul 26, 2022 I think the distinction is that I can serve Salem well by loving her through the preaching ministry and pastoral care, and she will follow. It is good that you were ministered to personally by your pastor. . If you have legal questions, attorneys will be available to help you at the legal clinic. But I do sense and feel that a lot of the progress that Ive been able to make in the pastorate is connected in some way to his tutelage, his leadership, and his spiritual fathering, so to speak. On one hand, Progressive is what I would call progressively traditional, and Salem is traditionally progressive. fellowship and personal friendship, could have been met by a holy man of Islam, Hinduism, Buddhism, or any other world religionor by a secular counselor or self-help advocate. Meeks' retirement comes at a time when many longtime church leaders have been transitioning out of leadership as they contend with dwindling attendance and other ministry upheavals laid bare by the COVID-19 pandemic. What lessons or advice has he already passed along about leading Salem Baptist? Charlie earned an M.Div. . Dates new role will mean others will take on some of what Dates does now at Progressive, he said. James Meeks announced Sunday that Pastor Charlie Dates of Progressive Baptist Church in Chicago will succeed him as leader of the 10,000-member Salem Baptist Church of Chicago when he steps out of the role in January 2023. Nationally known pastor Rev. He announced Sunday he'll preach his last sermon to the 10,000-member church on January 8, 2023. Rev. How will your role there look different? He opposed the legalization of gay marriage,called for a boycott over funding disparities at Chicago Public Schools, and once served as spiritual adviser to disgraced R&B singer R. Kelly. The specter of racial animus and theological arrogance was giving way to a new era of Christian leadership, I suggested. One of the benefits at Progressive is that the operations of the church and systems and structures of the church, the day-to-day operations, are free to move independent of me. Dates's 100-year-old congregation only began affiliating with the SBC last year, joining as a dual affiliate with the Progressive National Baptist Convention, a mainline, African American. . CT interviewed him about the history of the two congregations and his call to lead Salem Baptist. But there is nothing wrong with loving those who I do have personal relationships with, and have really left an impact on my faith, family, and heart.. Thats the old SBC. Dates preaches at the 2019 African American Preaching Conference. Their seminaries have hosted outstanding guest faculty and chapel speakers outside of their norm. I imagine they provide cover for the SBC leadership to further alienate Black and brown Christians who do not ascribe to their heritage of dangerous conservatism. You've read 0 of 5 of todays most popular posts. Progressive was around WAY before Charlie Dates; it was not founded or based on his teachings alone. We use cookies on our website to give you the most relevant experience by remembering your preferences and repeat visits. As a highly sought-after speaker, he is widely invited to preach at churches and speak at retreats, conferences, and universities throughout the United States and abroad. We haveI thinka very Paul and Timothy kind of relationship. Woke Wars infiltrate Christian colleges, prof under fire for racial justice unit, Southern Baptists oust Rick Warrens Saddleback Church for naming a female pastor, Professor Joeckel on why his contract, teachings on racial justice are under review, Copyright 2020, Religion News Service. When did the theological architects of American slavery develop the moral character to tell the church how it should discuss and discern racism? If we could look at the current moment and seize the opportunity to develop young people that God has laid his hand upon, then I think the best days of the church, in this critical culture, are in front of us. Dates graduated from Salem Baptists Christian school, which has since closed. They are good men who are sending a big message to the SBC, said Marshal Ausberry. We meet every second Saturday, March 11, 2023 at 9:00 am. It's time for Salem to have younger leadership. 1 is my itinerant ministry will take a reduction, and I will be present locally a lot more, which Im looking forward to. Feel free to watch our services online! This cookie is set by GDPR Cookie Consent plugin. But the bones are good. Some in our ranks inappropriately use the label of CRT! to avoid legitimate questions or as a cudgel to dismiss any discussion of discrimination. What I will say is that Progressive and Salem demonstrate the spectrum of Black churches in Chicago. Datess 100-year-old congregation only began affiliating with the SBC last year, joining as a dual affiliate with the Progressive National Baptist Convention, a mainline, African American denomination. I adore Charlie Dates BECAUSE of how he and his wife PERSONALLY ministered to me when I needed it. Return to homepage. Do you have a birthday or anniversary next month? But you seem determined to dismiss or belittle it in some sort of attempt to insult the Dates and me. Neither am I saying that hes the only significant influence in my life. Opinion: What is Revivaland is it Happening at Asbury? ), Progressive Baptist Church in Chicago. Thats their choice. Dates called him an Uncle Ruckus on twitter, which is a derogatory slur used to describe a black man that embraces the whiteness of society instead of resisting it. RELATED: Southern Baptist seminary presidents nix critical race theory. Let us know how we can pray for you and your family. After the retirement of its founder James Meeks, fellow South Side pastor Charlie Dates will become senior pastor of one of Chicagos biggest megachurches, Salem Baptist Church, returning to the ministry that shaped him as a kid and succeeding one of his greatest mentors in the faith. It's to multiply in every generation and right now the church in Chicago needs fresh dynamic trained Gospel fire leaders. Charlie has also led Progressive in being a very put faith into action church here in the Chicago Black community. I dont need to be Einstein to understand that with all these jobs he is not truly doing any of them full time. Its evangelism, its benevolence, its disciple-making have all been very Christo-centric and rooted in the Scriptures. Since then, conservative groups have been more vocal about what they see as an embrace of critical race theory and secular thinking by seminaries and denominational leaders, with the newly formed Conservative Baptist Network being among the most vocal opponents. Well, the Stewardship Ministry at ProgressiveChicago is excited to partner with The YWCA and Liberty Bank to offer a 6 hour in-person or virtual homebuyer's workshop. He also told him hes still willfully acting like hes a slave because he rejects CRT. Im still surprised Charlie Dates wasnt forced to step down after he publicly used a racial slur against Virgil Walker on social media last year. . If I can help these churches recognize Gods hand in their past as a kind of indication of God, of what God wants to do in the future, then I think I can hand it off to the next generation in good fashion. Dates also is an affiliate professor at Baylor Universitys George W. Truett Theological Seminary in Texas and at Trinity Evangelical Divinity School in Illinois, according to his bio. And Im not sure how bringing up holy men of other faiths comes into it I was at a Christian event seeking Biblically-rooted ministry, and thats what Pastor Dates and his wife provided. Yesterday, Charlie Dates, the Senior Pastor at Chicago's Progressive Baptist Church, gave a powerful biblical message addressing the recent killings of Auhmad Aubrey, Breonna Taylor, and George Floyd. "It's time for Salem to move forward. In op-eds announcing their decisions to leave, Charlie Dates of Chicagos Progressive Baptist Church and Ralph D. West of Houstons The Church Without Walls both criticized SBC seminary presidents declaration that critical race theory was incompatible with the denominations statement of faith. (Perhaps due to my rarely being on social media for my own sanity). To donate, becoming Progressives youngest-ever senior pastor, The Southern Baptist Theological Seminary, Chicago Unity Service Brings Together Christians Across Ethnic Lines, Chicago Pastor James Meeks Bids Tearful Farewell After 38 Years at Salem Baptist, Tennessee Charity Walk to Fund Needed Wells Persists Despite Rainy Conditions, Eden Village Ministry Aims to End Homelessness Through Tiny Home Communities, Gateway Seminary to Fund Short-Term Mission Trips for All Students, Vineyard Pastor Resigns, Wont Cooperate With Probe Into Sons Alleged Misconduct, Why Businessman Peter Chung Matters for the Future of The Kings College. That is a concerning statement. The SBCs power structure wants to maintain white dominance. Charlie served as an apprentice to Pastor K. Edward Copeland and started his formal, practical training at the New Zion Baptist Church of Rockford, Illinois. And while Progressive is a large congregation (around 1000 members), it doesnt come close to Salem (which has about 10,000). I also understand how a personal relationship strengthens that love; that is the importance of us having relationships in the body of Christ. How do you use that significance, and history of these two churches in the city, to drive the future? He served three terms as an Illinois state senator, was chairman of the state board of education, and ran in Chicagos 2011 mayoral race. And the same for Salem, which might still have it. For the second time in two days, a prominent Black pastor has publicly quit the Southern Baptist Convention over its seminary presidents' campaign against Critical Race Theory. Dates explained he saw rejecting CRT as part of a continuing heritage of dangerous conservatism.. While I do not know much about Charlie Dates, it has becoming increasingly true that the higher you rise the harder you fall.. As I am contemplating leaving my current evangelical church, Progressive is on my list of places Im considering and praying about for a new church home, and a lot of it is due to the Dates family. Two things. Speaking with CT, Dates drew parallels to Paul and Timothy, referencing Pauls instructions to the younger leader based on what he had witnessed firsthand in ministry. Its fair to say that I understand the dynamics of congregational leadership and development in both churches. Advertisement cookies are used to provide visitors with relevant ads and marketing campaigns. Sign up for our newsletter: Charlie Dates is the senior pastor of Progressive Baptist Church in Chicago and serves on the board of TCP. Thanks for the extra info here. With teary eyes, I just told them I hope that they accept my recommendation when that time comes. Its time for a younger generation to assume leadership at one of Chicagos largest churches. Brian He teaches preaching at Wheaton College and serves as an Affiliate Professor of the Baylor University George W. Truett Theological Seminary and as Affiliate . In addition, the 41-year-old also served under Meeks as primary preaching assistant, pastor of adult ministries, and director of church operations at Salem Baptist before becoming senior pastor at Progressive Baptist Church in 2011. Charlie E. Dates is the senior pastor of Salem Baptist Church and Progressive Baptist Church, two of the oldest and largest historically Black churches in Chicago, Illinois. Sarah Einselen is an award-winning writer and editor based in Texas. Around the country, people run into me and tell me, Oh I got baptized at that church, or Oh, I remember Sunday school at that church. Its legend and its lore is huge. Progressive Baptist Church. The recent departures caught the attention of Southern Baptist leaders who were disappointed to see them go, particularly fellow African Americans. What other things do you want to highlight to your current and future congregations and the readers of CT? Photo courtesy of Charlie Dates. Every church that lives in the past is already anchoring itself in the graveyard of history. The mega church concept is already troublesome. Im here to speak the truth in love to you to keep you from going down a path that may seem comforting to you now, but it will ensnare you.. The other thing is, in terms of preaching, I plan on preaching two services on Sunday morning: one at Progressive and one at Salem. "I sense God performing a work of His Spirit that connects Salem to churches that need revitalization. I go where God leads me not Charlie Dates. Charlie Dates of the Progressive Baptist Church in Chicago, one of the pastors who have already severed ties, said the November statement was "the last straw." "When did the theological architects of American slavery develop the moral character to tell the church how it should discuss and discern racism?" Through his passion for learning, living, and teaching the Gospel, Dr. Charlie serves as an Affiliate Professor at Baylor University- George W. Truett Theological Seminary, Trinity Evangelical Divinity School, and Wheaton College. As I prayed through it, Reverend Meeks and I wrestled with it, and he graciously affirmed my sense of discernment. The two churches will remain separate, and he plans on preaching two sermons each Sunday. Over the summer, Dates discussed with CT his frustration with the lack of diversity among SBCs recently appointed entity heads, all of whom are white men, and the inconsistent support for racial justice causes. Use of and/or registration on any portion of this site constitutes acceptance of our. He was also on staff at Salem Baptist for five years as Meeks preaching assistant before becoming Progressives youngest-ever senior pastor at age 30. We want to walk with you and your family in every step of the way. Calling him "the greatest young preacher in our nation today," Rev. Subscribe to CT for less than $4.25/month. Hi. In his June 19 sermon, he told congregants hes retiring as of January 15, 2023, and the Rev. For questions or to reach his office, please email booking@progressivechicago.org. And I have loved various pastors like family; some have ministered to my family for DECADES, and have baptized, married, counseled, and even eulogized GENERATIONS of my family. These have been disciple-making churches with an emphasis on Christian education. What I benefit from is far greater than just a tip from him here or there; its more of a model of a life lived. Its time for Salem to move forward, he told his congregants. Give a gift of $30 or more to The Roys Report this month, and you will receive Escaping the Maze of Spiritual Abuse by Dr. Lisa Oakley and Justin Humphreys. . And if you think it feels good, warm and fuzzy to be confronted about your sin when youre in the middle of grief, you are VERY mistaken. The statement on critical race theory and intersectionality has soiled that good faith.. Dates to speak at your next event, please complete the Speaker Request form. Before his call to Progressive, he served as an apprentice pastor at New Zion Baptist Church in Rockford, Illinois, and as a pastor at Salem Baptist Church in Chicago. If Charlie Dates indeed used a racial slur (just last year), that does call into fitness his ability to do any of the above. To start, Dates will keep his current post as senior pastor at Progressive Baptist Church, a 15-minute drive from the House of Hope arena where Salem Baptist meets. Calling him "the greatest young preacher in our nation today," Rev. Services Progressive Baptist Church SUNDAYS AT PROGRESSIVE We'd love for you to join us at our Sunday Services! But what is liberal in the history of American Christianity? Its humorous, its rewarding, and its worth more than the price of gold or platinum. What challenges do you anticipate with the dynamic of pastoring two congregations? Give a gift of $30 or more to The Roys Report this month, and you will receive Escaping the Maze of Spiritual Abuse by Dr. Lisa Oakley and Justin Humphreys. Help keep The Christian Post free for everyone by making a one-time donation today. On March 27-28, Dates will give a sermon and lecture at Samford University for the Department of Biblical and Religious Studies annual Dotson M. Nelson Lecture. We want to see our church grow. When I came to Progressive, it took me a while to actually get my feet under me because of some of the history and nature of the church, and it required a lot of patience and long-suffering initially. So, I propose to you that we need a new organism, not led in full by white men; a Christian collective that makes room for the essentials of the faith and the diversity of the Church; a robust engine that finances the impoverished sides of the Church, speaks justice courageously to the government and cares gently for the oppressed, marginalized and women. Meeks, a former state senator, founded Salem Baptist 38 years ago. Progressive Baptist Church, a century-old historically Black congregation, was briefly part of the Southern Baptist Convention (SBC). I need to say that this is not an ambition of mine. Our PBC Teens are highly engaged in biblical teaching and discussion on how to navigate a Christian life amongst their peers. Chicago needs the Black church to be her best and brightest self. Its no longer that waywe are very much in the community nowbut thats the way it was. Your tax-deductible gift helps our journalists report the truth and hold Christian leaders and organizations accountable. If we in the SBC had shown as much sorrow for the painful legacy that sin has left as we show passion to decry CRT, we probably wouldnt be in this mess., Critical race theory isnt clearly defined, but generally refers to an approach to racism as systemic and embedded in society. To donate, click here. No One Knows. My acknowledgement of this is not a statement of submission, but an act of defiance. So we decided to cooperate and join our church to the SBC in what is known as a dual affiliation. His wife Kirstie also followed up to pray with me and further encourage me. Please click here to learn how. I am more of a vision-casting, preaching, pastoral care pastor. Charlie Dates is the senior pastor of Progressive Baptist Church in Chicago. Meeks, who is now 65 and served three terms as a state senator, told his congregation that he will preach his final sermon on Jan. 8, 2023, just five days before the church's 38th anniversary. To correct us from repeating errors and to inspire and to encourage us to pursue Gods great promise. Stephanie Martin, a freelance writer and editor in Denver, has spent her entire 30-year journalism career in Christian publishing. And I recognize that. I returned to our Progressive Baptist Church in Chicago with a bit of sophomoric optimism. Last month, Dates joined the Stetzer ChurchLeaders Podcast to talk about the need for solid Christian preaching during tough times. Sign up for our newsletter: Toward that end, the site requires that people use their full name when commenting. He also teaches at Wheaton College and has delivered chapel sermons at various institutions, including The Southern Baptist Theological Seminary. In a video posted Monday, Meeks called Dates the greatest preacher in our nation., The Bible says one man planteth and another man watereth, and God giveth the increase, he said in the video, with his wife Jamell Meeks, director of Salems womens ministries, at his side. Pastor Charlie Dates speaks at Progressive Baptist Church in Chicago. But in this instance, youre actually bothered (I guess Uncle Ruckus is what crosses your line, but not sons of b*ches or a**holes) AND questioning Charlie Datess salvation? Learn more. Give a gift of $30 or more to The Roys Report this month, and you will receive a copy of "Escaping the Maze of Spiritual Abuse" by Dr. Lisa Oakley and Justin Humphreys. His decision came two days after West made a similar argument in a Baptist Standard op-ed. When did those who have yet to hire multiple Black or brown faculty at their seminaries assume ethical authority on the subject of systemic injustice? That was the old Southern Baptists, I promised them and others in our church. Meeks serves on the Moody Bible Institute Trustee Board, and Dates has worked as an adjunct professor there. The cookies is used to store the user consent for the cookies in the category "Necessary". But he added God is extending our platform and our reach to the point where Ill be able to provide pastoral leadership for both churches. All the old leaders stay in place and dont open up and make room for new leadership. It was the first time to my knowledge that white evangelicals had celebrated in concert the life, memory and work of the Rev. We need new opportunities. In all that, he can never be criticized within his ranks. And if you have a testimony of the amazing things God is doing in your life through our ministry, please email it to info@progressivechicago.org. Charlie Edward Dates became the youngest Senior Pastor in Progressive's rich 95-year history. This cookie is set by GDPR Cookie Consent plugin. Both Meeks and Dates also have a connection to the Moody Bible Institute. How has he influenced you? The views expressed in this commentary do not necessarily reflect those of Religion News Service. James Meeks announced Sunday that Pastor Charlie Dates of Progressive Baptist Church in Chicago will succeed him as leader of the 10,000-member Salem Baptist Church of Chicago when he steps out of the role in January 2023. And while we are kind of watching this great falling away, we dont have to merely watch it. In January 2023, Reverend Dates became the Senior Pastor of the Salem Baptist Church of Chicago. The average member was around before Charlie (hes been there ~10 years) and knows hes not the only one who can lead them. COMMENTARY: Six white men shouldnt decide Southern Baptist position on race. Dr. Charlie Dates became the youngest senior pastor at Progressive Baptist Church of Chicago in 2011 at age 30 and in January 2023, he became the senior pastor of the Salem Baptist Church of Chicago. How did they, who in 2020 still dont have a single Black denominational entity head, reject once and for all a theory that helps to frame the real race problems we face? Dates wrote in an op-ed Friday for the Religion News Service. Meeks and his wife say they don't want to stand in the next generation's way. Have you ever dreamed of owning a home, but don't know where to begin? What happend to your, well Jesus called the Pharisees wolves and a whole lot other mean words' defense (like when Trump called people sons of b*tches and a**holes)? Pretty sure there were no consequences whatsoever for him over it. Gleannings aggregates what others are reporting. I think history, much like the end of Romans, is meant to teach us what God can do. Rev. Progressive Baptist Church of Chicago, under the leadership of Charlie E. Dates, is a. Everybody loves our old, respected leaders but I want to set an example that its okay to give the next generation an opportunity, Meeks adds.

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